Negotiations, Not War: Green Party’s Jill Stein Warns About U.S. Escalating Tension with N. Korea

Negotiations, Not War: Green Party’s Jill Stein Warns About U.S. Escalating Tension with N. Korea

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AMY GOODMAN: I’m Amy Goodman with Juan Gonzalez. JUAN GONZÁLEZ: We turn now to the Korean
Peninsula, where tensions are again escalating between the U.S. and North Korea. On Friday, North Korea tested an intercontinental
ballistic missile that experts say may be capable of reaching the West Coast of the
United States. North Korea says the test was a warning to
the United States to stop imposing sanctions against North Korea. In response to the test, the U.S. flew two
B-1 bombers over the Korean Peninsula and again tested its Alaska-based THAAD missile
defense system. The U.S. has deployed a similar THAAD missile
defense system to South Korea, despite objections from local residents. AMY GOODMAN: Joining us now is former Green
Party presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein. She just returned from a peace delegation
to South Korea that was sponsored in part by the Task Force to Stop THAAD in Korea and
Militarism in Asia. Dr. Jill Stein was the Green Party’s presidential
nominee in 2016 and 2012. Welcome back to Democracy Now! DR. JILL STEIN: Great to see you. AMY GOODMAN: Talk about what you found in
South Korea. DR. JILL STEIN: It’s a pretty amazing situation. South Korea just had what they call their
candlelight uprising. They just impeached a very corrupt and conservative
president. And now they have really turned their candlelight
uprising, which continues, to focus on the impacts of militarism, of nuclear weapons
and the THAAD missile system. And they are calling for a peace treaty with
North Korea—with North Korea. You know, the Korean War essentially is not
over. There’s been an armistice, but the peninsula
has lived under threat of war. Recently, North Korea has been firing off
the second ICBM, intercontinental ballistic missile, which is a very powerful and fast
missile and is very frightening to other countries around the world. And they’ve also now developed their nuclear
weapons capability. And, you know, it’s been this accelerating
set of provocations now. North Korea has done this in a setting where
the U.S. has been doing nuclear bomb mock runs, mock attacks with nuclear weapons, for
decades, actually. And we also have a policy of a first strike
of a nuclear attack against North Korea. So, understandably, North Korea has felt like
they have to develop a nuclear weapon in order to, you know, have—stand a chance. So, that’s where we are. It’s dangerous. It’s very dangerous, because Seoul, a city
of 25 million people, is in the crosshairs of this conflict, and even a limited exchange
of nuclear weapons could result in nuclear winter, which would—you know, in turn, is
predicted to cause hundreds of millions of deaths around the world. So, this is a conflict we all have a stake
in. And it’s not rocket science about how to
fix it. The North Koreans, the Russians and the Chinese
have all been very clear about what they want, which is essentially a freeze on the—on
the war games, this threatened nuclear attack from the U.S., in exchange for a freeze on
their nuclear and their missile program. JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Well, you mentioned the changing
political situation in South Korea, which gets very little attention here in the United
States. Is it your sense that there’s a possibility
for the South Korean government to take independent action in terms of moving forward on defusing
the tensions with the north? And if so, is the Trump administration’s—a
lot of the bellicose nature of its pronouncements now really predicated to trying to stop any
kind of reconciliation between the south and the north? DR. JILL STEIN: Yeah, I mean, you know, the Trump
administration seems to be doing what it knows how to do, which is to basically sell weapons
and drum up conflicts in order to do that. You know, they seem pretty clueless about
how to proceed. And with the chaos going on in the White House,
you know, it’s questionable what they can do. But there are saner voices that are beginning
to be heard right now. The New York Times had an editorial this morning,
actually, calling for negotiations. James Clapper himself has really come out
quite strongly in favor of what they call a freeze for a freeze—freeze the war games
in exchange for North Korea freezing its weapons program. And there are others. We’ve done this before. Negotiations have actually worked in the past,
during the mid-’90s. We were able to freeze for a period of about
eight years the weapons development program, by sitting down and talking with North Korea. And then George Bush came in with his evil—you
know, his “axis of evil,” and, actually, at that point, instituted a first-strike nuclear
policy against North Korea, so, you know—and destroyed the trust and the negotiations. But we need to go back to that. It’s like the Cold War, you know, all over
again. We need to relearn those lessons. Right now, the instincts are to basically
fire up the missiles and bring in more of them. It’s absolutely a disaster. I should mention the THAAD missile defense
system, because this is very provocative to China. You know, it’s like we’re taking the regime
change paradigm from the Middle East, and we’re trying to apply it here in—on the
Korean Peninsula, you know. And if you think it was a disaster in the
Middle East, now add nuclear weapons and China and Russia. You know, this isn’t going to work, which
is why I mentioned the nuclear winter thing, because we’re heading towards a mushroom
cloud right now. You know, this is not like your regime change
in the Middle East, which has been catastrophic enough. This is really on a nuclear dimension now. So, it just cannot go forward, and saner voices
need to prevail. AMY GOODMAN: Even the new South Korean president,
Moon Jae-in, is against the THAAD missile system, didn’t even know that some new equipment
was just brought into his own country when it came to THAAD, and called for immediate
negotiations with North Korea. What happened? DR. JILL STEIN: Yeah, it’s a good question. And the people of South Korea are really disturbed
about this and are—you know, there are really strong demonstrations going on against him
now. And it’s felt like he’s really betrayed
the people, because he was very clear as a candidate that he supported a peace treaty. AMY GOODMAN: But he called for this as president. DR. JILL STEIN: That’s right. Well, you know, initially, as president, he
did oppose THAAD. And then he’s done a real turnaround. Ever since his summit with Donald Trump, he’s
really backed off. So, you know, I think what’s exciting now
is that there is sort of an international coalition that’s developing among the peace
and democracy groups between South Korea and the U.S. And we’re really both trying to work at
both ends of the problem and to get the U.S. to back off and, likewise, to get South Korea
to stand up for sovereignty. It has been essentially an occupied peninsula,
occupied—it’s been a battleground, actually, of the great powers for the last century,
initially occupied by Japan, then—you know, by Japan throughout the Second World War,
and then immediately occupied by the Soviet Union and the U.S. JUAN GONZÁLEZ: And your sense of— DR. JILL STEIN: And they’ve paid the price. JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Your sense, when you were
there in South Korea, of how people regard the role of China? Because the Trump administration never stops
saying, “China’s got to step forward. China’s got to step forward,” and now, of
course, they’re saying, “China has failed to step forward.” The role of China in this, because China continues
to reject the U.S. approach dealing with North Korea? DR. JILL STEIN: That’s right. I mean, China objects to the effort to isolate
and punish North Korea. They don’t want to see North Korea destroyed. They’re not crazy about Kim Jong-un, either,
it appears, but they don’t want a failed state on their border. They also don’t want the U.S. or a U.S.
client state on their border, either. So they’re very committed to preserving
North Korea, and they’re going to do that. The people of South Korea really want to get
rid of the THAAD anti-missile system, because they see it as very provocative to China. They want to be left alone to deal with their
relations in North Korea. And they have a very concrete sense of how
they can begin a process. You know, they had an economic development
joint program with the North Koreans. They want to be able to go back to that. They want to be able to take a step-by-step
approach, starting with, you know, the negotiations for a peace treaty.

82 thoughts on “Negotiations, Not War: Green Party’s Jill Stein Warns About U.S. Escalating Tension with N. Korea”

  1. Nuclear winter would ensue according to Carl Sagan at a WORLDWIDE nuclear exchange, like in the former scenario with NATO and the Warsaw Pact. One single hydrogen bomb or a few of them ,, as bad as that would be, aren't causing a worldwide nuclear winter.

  2. FOR ALL THOSE 1% MARGIN OF LOSSES IN MULTIPLE SWING STATES, Kremlin agent Jill Stein will have blood in her hands for the 10 million deported immigrants, all the suicides & cartel deaths that follows' and the highest civilian casualty bombing & drone warfare ( far higher than obama's) that this administration is mercilessly waging.

  3. You people are die-hard shills for the NWO. Trump is only the new captain of the Titanic, and y'all carry on as if money grows on trees. It is gonna be a rough row to hoe, and you'd be advised to get real. Your agenda is based in force, but like typical socialists you just want your way, and you will initiate force to get it. Thank God for the 2nd Amendment.

  4. Jill Stein is such an amazing woman. It disgusts me how effective the smear campaign was against her in this last election cycle. I think she'd have made an AWESOME president. Then again, that's why I voted for her.

  5. Why Did Hillary Send Mueller to Moscow with Uranium in 2009?
    Mueller’s secret mission to Russia coincided with Clinton efforts to sell 20% of US uranium to Kremlin
    https://www.infowars.com/why-did-hillary-send-mueller-to-moscow-with-uranium-in-2009/

  6. NK is Chinese puppet. Taiwan is British puppet. Japan pulls all strings in East Asia. The British always want war in East Asia, for US to fight.

  7. Stupid rhetoric coming like CNN fake news of the year award , the Jewish cunt is getting uglier by the day as per Jill she sucked shummers cock on Sunday according to Washington com-post

  8. Korean people are incredible. Above all, must have peace, security, and economic development, and human rights.

  9. Oh, Jill, my dear, you know as well as I that no part of this is random. The bottom line here is that if there is not an apocalypse, the theists are going to look pretty damned stupid. Only the Orthodox Church knew enough to exclude the book of revelations from their bible. But for the rest of the theists, the End of the World MUST happen or they are going to have egg all over their faces. It HAS to happen. It will happen. It's the tail wagging the dog. Negotiations does nothing to further the End Times, so of course it is off the table. Jill, you are the smartest politician I know, and I know you know this. So instead, perhaps working to prepare folks for the inevitable would be more productive than trying to stop it.

  10. Despite misleading characterizations of Trump and his admin., JS's comments are good overall, especially at end. Do not force things on the South Koreans. Let them lead the process, rather than have the US barge in all the time.

  11. To any and all screaming about Jill Stein, it's time to take your heads out of your asses. The DNC and it's corrupt leadership guaranteed the Dem loss by sabotaging the campaign of it's most popular candidate and by slandering him as much as the Repubs did. The DNC, practically owned by the Clintons, gamed the system to favor HC despite her huge unpopularity and it backfired in your faces.

  12. Oh dear. Distribute FDA, DEA, and HHS approved cyanide pills in case of a US sanctioned nuclear winter. Everybody wants to be left alone, except for maybe our troops serving abroad. Taking our dirt over there and watering it doesn't make it our soil/territory to protect through more aggressive defense. Boycott all jobs. We're all political prisoners.

  13. The DNC propped up a disliked candidate that was under FBI investigation and smeared the populist running as a Democrat, but keep blaming Jill Stein voters. That will get you 4 more years of Trump.

  14. The rest of the world sees the U.S who HAS ATTACKED many countries with their WMD's as the REAL THREAT, not Nth Korea or ANY other country. You yanks have lost the plot, you blame others for what you ALWAYS do yourselves.
    Peace

  15. Now that's who should have been the first woman president. Well educated, sensible, knows the law, knows government, has plenty of class and above all, not a corporate shrill. And that's why I voted for her.

  16. PLEASE WOULD SOMEONE TELL US WHAT WE (THE PEOPLE) CAN DO TO HELP STOP THE (OUR) GOVT FROM ACTING SO MORONIC , NO NORMAL HUMAN BEING COULD POSSABLY THINK ANYTHING THEY ARE DOING IS OK AND ITS NOT SOMETHING JUST TO USE TO MAKE RATINGS GO UP THIS IS SERIOUS SHIT WHERE ARE THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM SOMEBODY OUT HERE NEEDS TO GET A PEACE BALL ROLLING RIGHT NOW ,DOES OUR MILITARY EVEN UNDERSTAND WHATS GOING ON OR HAVE THEY ALL LOST THEIR MINDS /SOULS? WHATS REALLY GOING ON HERE ;DR JILL STIEN I TRUST YOU YOUR ABOUT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS COMMON SENSE AND HUMANITY AND A CLEAR SENSE OF SITUATION WHAT SHOULD WE DO ?

  17. I don't think that she's a great speaker but Stein was more well-intentioned in comparison to Hillary Clinton.

  18. Stein is a Putin the Butcher thief's operative against Americans and our laws like Traitor draft dodger liar thief Trump. The non patriot Electoral College's for Prez … /-:

  19. No disrespect Jill, but you are too naive about North Korea, the Trump Administration, and China. North Korea will never freeze its nuclear weapon's program.
    They will keep on building up their arsenal whatever deal is made.
    Kim Jong-um knows that the only way to protect himself is to have nuclear weapons.
    After Saddam Hussein, then Gaddafi, he is quite aware what happens to dictators without nukes. I am not suggesting a military solution, but it might be better to keep the status quo for the time being, rather than the "RETIRED GENERALS" in the Trump administration stampeding into the negotiating table which might backfire.However, one could always try start re-negotiating with China, that if North Korea stops its nuclear arms program, the US will withdraw the THAAD system from South Korea.But always keep in mind that China wants control over East Asia, and half of the Pacific.But first they will want Taiwan (a democratic independent country in reality except by name, because the big bully is pointing a cocked gun to its head).

    When President Xi met President Obama, he said "The vast Pacific Ocean has enough space for two large countries like the United States and China."

  20. Isn't that exactly what the other powers want Trump to do ( that is to give in to North Korea 's demand ) ? It seems other powers are using NK to keep US and her allies at bay .

  21. She is Really dumb.. The moment US leaves the peninsula, North will attack South. Do these liberals then take responsibility of that on them?

  22. I'm 100% for Jill Stein. Of course the only sane option is to negotiate. The US has to stop its Imperialist aggression and asserting its will through the petroleum dollar and economic terrorism. Stop all of theses wars get our military State Side and rebuild our country.

  23. Sure Jill, that way the U.S can work on issues you and Amy goodman think are important. Like supporting Palestinian terrorism against Jews and giving support to Murdro i Venezuela

  24. Dear Amy and Juan:

    Jill Stein and the Green Party are so 2016. Stop trying to make them happen. DSA is the new leftist 3rd party. DSA is building a movement from the ground up rather than just running perennial loser candidates like Nader and Stein for the presidency.

    Your friend,

    Eric

  25. Let just wait until they nuke us! Are you F`n nuts? We have been in negotiations for decades, that does not work. By negotiating for decades we have allowed them to develop deliverable nuclear weapons. Remember they are the ones threatening to use them against the U.S .

  26. Why can't human beings just get along? So sad that there are so many ignorant human parasites always looking to increase predatory aggressions. Someday we'll be rid of violent profiteering provocateurs hungry for more and more power and profit.

  27. When you negotiate with the devil (he that has only contempt for most of his nation's people), you will lose bitterly! Jill talks and hopes in evil being friends with good. Forget it. Jill is much worst the any candidate that I'ave seen. I hope that she wakes up to the smell of coffee before its the smell of burning US cities.

  28. There is no right choice with North Korea, if the armesist collapse there is a high probably that at least one nuke will take off.

  29. Korea has deposits of rare earth minerals worth trillions of dollars. This makes it a prime target for US interests and under the powerful hammer of the US military. The US isn't satisfied with just stealing the Mideast's wealth, it wants to steal the earth's wealth, even to the detriment of our environment.

  30. The most sane candidate in the presidential 2016 circus. Unfortunately, voting for Jill was just too big a leap for most americans – voting for what we want essentially. Glad to see her out there active in the world – with dignity and brilliant. Wonderful!

  31. "They (China) don't want to see North Korea destroyed."

    What the hell is Jill Stein talking about? North Korea has been a slave state for decades and China has propped the slave holders up. This woman has no idea what she's talking about.

  32. Where is the multi million dollars donation she collected to pay for vote recount against Trump but never did? Fake news media also quiet about this. Sad!

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